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I've realized that I could never effectively argue with most anti-choice activists about birth control and abortion because we would be making completely different assumptions about the world -- different and fundamentally incompatible paradigms, in Kuhn's terms (since I've been reading lots of and about him in my philosophy of science class). Their arguments about what the Bible says about sex and other topics hold no weight for me. My arguments about problems of abused and neglected children, overpopulation, and a woman's right to control the course of her life hold little or no weight for them.

The point where we might be able to actually speak to one another, rather than past one another, is the issue of viability and when "life" starts, but even there they take what I see as ridiculously extreme views such as "life starts at conception" or sometimes with the possibility of conception (thus, the fight against birth control as a preventative measure) that I can't possibly agree with, given the messy realities of life: so many fertilized eggs don't implant, so many proto-fetuses don't last even a week, etc.

Furthermore, if they take this stance, why aren't they attacking in-vitro fertilization as vehemently as they are abortion and birth control? Multiple fetuses are grown and then one (or sometimes a few, but certainly not all) is implanted, and the rest are discarded. Isn't that murder in their eyes? Shouldn't all viable fetuses be given the chance to live in that case too? Funny how the intention of the couple seems to change the morality of the fetuses: people who are going through in-vitro fertilization want to be parents while people practicing birth control don't.

Along those same lines, it's also very strange that some anti-choice people take childlessness to be irresponsible, while from an environmental perspective, I think that having children is the more irresponsible choice (which, of course, some eco-minded parents mitigate in various ways, as I hope I would too if/when I have children -- but all things considered, that's still another person using a lifetime's-worth of resources, which is not small even when minimized). And moreover, making sure that one has children at a point in one's life when they can be best provided for seems to be, to me, a lot more responsible than risking having kids as soon as one starts having sex, which for a very large part of the population is very young (even with abstinence-only education like I grew up with, as a recent study shows). Of course, the anti-choice people would say one shouldn't be having sex until one is prepared to have children (which is the often-unsaid corollary to most of their points), but that's a whole 'nother can of worms with its own set of worldview incompatibilities, and I'll save that for another post (though you're welcome to rail in the comments if you want to).

No wonder this is such a hotly-contested debate. Except that it's not really a debate at all.

(NOTE: I don't mean to imply that one side is more "rational" than the other, even though I have made it clear which "side" I am on. These sorts of disagreements happen all the time, in many areas. My main argument is that the incommensurability of worldviews prevent the two sides from even seeing eye-to-eye.)

Date: 2007-05-08 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokyorose329.livejournal.com
Also, there has to be room for changing one's mind. When I got to the point where pregnancy was a real possibility (sexually mature AND active, where before it was only the former), and I began to *really* think about the little life-maker inside of me, I became a lot less vociferous towards pro-lifers. I still think it should be legal, and the government should keep their noses out of my private health and life, and that religious beliefs should be of limited scope in the decision-making process, but it really is horrifying to think that the power of society is so great that it would convince a woman that to kill the life she protects and nurtures in her womb--the strongest of survival urges--would be preferable to carrying it to term. We should be focusing also on improving the lives of children already in this world, so they're less likely to have children before they're ready later on.

On the flip side, you'd be shocked at the number of staunch pro-lifers who burn rubber to the gynecologist's office when their precious college-bound daughter gets knocked up on prom night.

Date: 2007-05-08 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lbchewie.livejournal.com
Just illustrates the fact that it's really easy to moralise about certain issues as long as they're in the abstract. Once they become real decisions that people are forced to make for themselves, then suddenly the lines begin to blur...

Date: 2007-05-08 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chimerically.livejournal.com
On the flip side, you'd be shocked at the number of staunch pro-lifers who burn rubber to the gynecologist's office when their precious college-bound daughter gets knocked up on prom night.

Yep -- but they're different! *snort*

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